[menog] Re: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Peering

[Timo Liuska]

My understanding is that currently it's probably not very cost  
effective for all the ISP's in KSA to have any direct connectivity to  
other countries. Most of the traffic is coming anyways from Europe  
and U.S. and that's why there hasn't been very much progress in this  
issue.

But if we get some day the national IX here in KSA, it might offer  
better possibilities also for developing the access to other Gulf  
area countries. When all the national providers are interconnected to  
one logical point, it would be a perfect opportunity for some transit  
provider to offer interconnectivity to the Gulf area IX, whether it's  
located in Bahrain or in some other country.

Just my 2 cents,
Timo


On Jul 31, 2007, at 12:46 , Kais Al-Essa wrote:

> Fahad,
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> My issue is to have an Exchange for the Gulf states. Whether its in  
> Saudi or Bahrain, it really does not make a big difference for us  
> as benefiting ISPs.
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> However, its more logical from technical point of view to have it  
> in Saudi due to the highest amount of international bandwidth and  
> users is actually today in Saudi Arabia. As you know, Saudi  
> Arabia's Internet traffic exceeds all of the Gulf countries  
> combined !!
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> From another point, you are also right, Saudi Arabia is more  
> restrictive in nature. Therefore, both points will have to be  
> weighed and all parties must cooperate and coordinate to reach a  
> solution.
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> Regards..
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> From: Fahad AlShirawi [mailto:fahad at 2connectbahrain.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:36 PM
> To: menog at menog.net; tic at isu.net.sa
> Cc: 'Kais Al-Essa'
> Subject: RE: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Peering
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> Personally, I would not favor Saudi for a regional exchange. Too  
> many restrictions and not enough competition to derive the way  
> forward. Bahrain (aside from it being my country) would be a  
> natural choice I think. Though Saudi involvement would be key to  
> success for the whole region.
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> Fahad.
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> From: ncc-regional-middle-east-admin at ripe.net [mailto:ncc-regional- 
> middle-east-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Timo Liuska
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:14 AM
> To: ncc-regional-middle-east at ripe.net
> Cc: Kais Al-Essa
> Subject: Re: [ncc-regional-middle-east] Peering
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> Hi,
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> There has been indeed discussions about building a local internet  
> exchange ever since the local ISP's could select where to get their  
> international capacity (around last Ramadan). Before that, KACST/ 
> ISU was effectively acting as an internet exchange in Riyadh and  
> Jeddah. As far as I know, CITC is one of the key parties in the  
> decision process who is going to build it and when. So far I  
> haven't seen any final decisions about it, but hopefully they'll  
> get the decision done quickly.
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> Best regards,
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> Timo
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> Timo Liuska <tic at isu.net.sa>
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> Senior Network Consultant, Nixu Middle East FZ-LLC
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> Network Operations Center / Internet Services Unit
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> King Abdulaziz City for Science & Technology
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> On Jul 26, 2007, at 21:26 , Kais Al-Essa wrote:
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> Hello all,
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> It was interesting to attend the 1st MENOG meeting in Bahrain. I'm  
> looking forward to such annual meetings.
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> One of the interesting topics for me as an ISP Technical Manager is  
> Peering Points.
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> During the meeting, I didn't see any single initiative about a  
> peering project in the Gulf. However, I've heared about some  
> attempts or projects, but was unable to get anything solid.
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> Therefore, I'm sending this e-mail to the group in order to enquire  
> if anyone knows for sure about any peering activities between Gulf  
> Countries for Internet traffic and if there is anything going on  
> with Saudi Arabia in particular. I personally heared that STC is  
> working on something soon, but again, nothing was solid and I was  
> unable to obtain clear information.
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> Regards..
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> Kais Al-Essa, Founder and Operations & Technical Services Manager
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> Sahara Net
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