[menog] RE: Menog Digest, Vol 24, Issue 5
Maher Zein
Maher.Zein at meeza.com.qa
Thu Jan 14 13:26:02 GMT 2010
Dear Gents,
I would like to contribute to this interesting topic and add that it really seems for all ISPs should at least change their network edges to support IPv6 with tunnelling their IPv4 core to IPv6 or changing also the cores to totally IPv6 and VPNv6; and the conclusion from all of this, we are so nearby to the golden age of network engineering and very good reason to enhance the ISP networks to be more service oriented using advanced MPLS with IPV6.
But for the moment we are discussing this topic, many security and network equipments still not supporting IPv6 or advanced IPv6; also many NOCs still not ready for IPv6. For our region area, RIPE (RIR) will stop assigning public IPv4 resources at March 2012.
So I share many with the believe that's starting from middle of 2011, the network golden age will start.
Kind Regards,
Maher El Zein | CCIE No. 21032 R&S, SP; INFOSEC Pro.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:58:14 +0300
From: "Hashim Hilal" <hhilal at alkhorayef.com>
Subject: RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:02:49 +0300
From: Hassan Al-Sayed <halsayed at ict.gov.qa>
Subject: RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
To: Network Architecture Unit <blomitd_net at blom.com.lb>, "'Salman
Al-Mannai'" <SMANNAI at qtel.com.qa>, "fahad at 2connectbahrain.com"
<fahad at 2connectbahrain.com>, "richard.barnes at gmail.com"
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Hello gents,
Hope all are doing well, please allow me to contribute to this interesting topic, I have been a silent member but definitely enjoying your valuable input.
With regards to the importance of IPv6. If we are talking business profits, then according to predictions say that ISPs may not be able to survive with IPv4 after 2012! Internet is running out of IPs, so here is a strong business case.
Well maybe there is a debate around these predictions, if we talk customer-service rather than business profits, IPv6 security and QoS features would give the customers more confidence in using the Internet and more satisfaction with ISPs.
Yes maybe not many operators implemented IPv6, regionally or internationally, but I guess Service providers must prepare now, and enjoy the fruits later! :)
Hassan Al-Sayed
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From: menog-bounces at menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces at menog.net] On Behalf Of Network Architecture Unit
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:51 AM
To: 'Salman Al-Mannai'; fahad at 2connectbahrain.com; richard.barnes at gmail.com; ahmed at tamkien.com
Cc: menog at menog.net
Subject: RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
Gentlemen,
In my humble opinion, IPv6 is still weak in our region for the following
reasons:
1- There is no 'need' for it yet; what is rewarding about deploying it now?
Does it hurt if you don't? It has to be mapped to the business profit.
2- What is the roadmap for our region?
Sometimes a new technology or standard is best pushed by forcing it. "If you
don't adopt regulation #12345 you will suffer this and that..." It works for
Bill Gates anyway ;)
And usually top managers consider that "if it's not broken, don't fix it!"
After all, every company has much more priorities that need to be addressed,
and sometimes freezing pays well, as a new technology emerges and you deploy
it in one shot. I hope this was helpful.
Regards,
Rodolphe Abou Nassar
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-----Original Message-----
From: menog-bounces at menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces at menog.net] On Behalf Of
Salman Al-Mannai
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:10 PM
To: 'fahad at 2connectbahrain.com'; 'richard.barnes at gmail.com';
'ahmed at tamkien.com'
Cc: 'menog at menog.net'
Subject: Re: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
Who told you it is the board? Brd has another acronym - I'll tell in person
if you agree to attend the PKI conference in Tunis on 24th of Jan :)
More info can be found on www.aicto.org
Regards
Sent on the move from BlackBerry Wireless Device by Qtel.
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From: Fahad AlShirawi <fahad at 2connectbahrain.com>
To: Salman Al-Mannai; richard.barnes at gmail.com <richard.barnes at gmail.com>;
ahmed at tamkien.com <ahmed at tamkien.com>
Cc: menog at menog.net <menog at menog.net>
Sent: Wed Jan 13 23:00:13 2010
Subject: RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
I think TP/IX shouldn't be mentioned for different reasons ;)
Salman your board seem to be a lot of fun ;) I want to meet them and talk
v12 ;) Just for fun!
-----Original Message-----
From: menog-bounces at menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces at menog.net] On Behalf Of
Salman Al-Mannai
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:34 PM
To: 'richard.barnes at gmail.com'; 'ahmed at tamkien.com'
Cc: 'menog at menog.net'
Subject: Re: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
Please gentlemen, don't announce IPv7, if our esteemed brd hear about it I
loose my job :(
Sent on the move from BlackBerry Wireless Device by Qtel.
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From: menog-bounces at menog.net <menog-bounces at menog.net>
To: Ahmed Abu-Abed <ahmed at tamkien.com>
Cc: menog at menog.net <menog at menog.net>
Sent: Wed Jan 13 21:04:14 2010
Subject: Re: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
Fahad: What about 2Connect? Are you guys offering IPv6?
Ahmed: Sorry to tell you, but IPv7 is already taken, for TP/IX:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/version-numbers/version-numbers.xhtml>
Get working on IPv10!
--Richard
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Ahmed Abu-Abed <ahmed at tamkien.com> wrote:
> I guess one can reply we're working on implementing IP version 7 as it has
> better features (and rhymes with the latest Windows version :-)
>
> For those interested Tamkien is a consulting company recently setup with a
> focus on advanced IP solutions including IPv6 access gear/terminals for
ISPs
> (the products are already deployed with major ISPs) ... The website is not
> ready yet but feel free to ask for product information.
>
> -Ahmed
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: fahad at 2connectbahrain.com
> To: Salman Al-Mannai ; menog-bounces at menog.net ; 'ahmed at tamkien.com' ;
> 'menog at menog.net'
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>
>
> Salman you just made my night! v6 is out and you're not even at 5!!!
> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>
> Ahmed, what does Tamkien do? Just tried to go to your site but it's
password
> protected?!
>
> Fahad.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry?? wireless device from MTC-Vodafone
>
> ________________________________
> From: Salman Al-Mannai <SMANNAI at qtel.com.qa>
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:28:13 +0300
> To: 'ahmed at tamkien.com'<ahmed at tamkien.com>;
> 'menog at menog.net'<menog at menog.net>
> Subject: Re: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
>
> I've been away from the MENOG for over a year now, only last week I was
> approached by someone from the 'top brd' who made a very strong statement
> about IPv6 after asking me which IP version we have in the company? :\ of
> course my answer was IPv4! Then he replied in a steaming mode: See how
lousy
> you are doing, I just heard that IPv6 is out and you are not even at
version
> 5!
>
> This leads to one conclusion; we have not build enough awareness about
IPv6
> in the region, hence, I would like to see more participation from bright
> names such as Randy Bush and Dr. Latif Ladid in future MENOG events.
>
> Regards
>
> Sent on the move from BlackBerry Wireless Device by Qtel.
>
> ________________________________
> From: menog-bounces at menog.net
> To: menog at menog.net
> Sent: Wed Jan 13 18:08:45 2010
> Subject: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
>
> Are their any ISPs (or other network providers) on the MENOG list that
wish
> to offer IPv6 access to their subscribers ? I like to know what are the
main
> issues that are preventing offering this service.
>
> Cheers,
> -Ahmed
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 13:49:29 +0300
From: Hassan Al-Sayed <halsayed at ict.gov.qa>
Subject: RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access
To: Abdulrahman Al Marzouqi <a.almarzouqi at tra.gov.ae>, Network
Architecture Unit <blomitd_net at blom.com.lb>, "'Salman Al-Mannai'"
<SMANNAI at qtel.com.qa>, "fahad at 2connectbahrain.com"
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