[menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's IPv4

Owen DeLong owend at he.net
Mon Mar 28 17:53:56 GMT 2011


I don't know whether this is being done under ARIN policy or not. It appears
from the outside that it may be outside of and contrary to ARIN policy.

For reference, here is ARIN's policy on transfers of address blocks:


8. TRANSFERS
8.1. Principles

Number resources are nontransferable and are not assignable to any other organization unless ARIN has expressly and in writing approved a request for transfer. ARIN is tasked with making prudent decisions on whether to approve the transfer of number resources.
It should be understood that number resources are not 'sold' under ARIN administration. Rather, number resources are assigned to an organization for its exclusive use for the purpose stated in the request, provided the terms of the Registration Services Agreement continue to be met and the stated purpose for the number resources remains the same. Number resources are administered and assigned according to ARIN's published policies.
Number resources are issued, based on justified need, to organizations, not to individuals representing those organizations. Thus, if a company goes out of business, regardless of the reason, the point of contact (POC) listed for the number resource does not have the authority to sell, transfer, assign, or give the number resource to any other person or organization. The POC must notify ARIN if a business fails so the assigned number resources can be returned to the available pool of number resources if a transfer is not requested and justified.
8.2. Mergers and Acquisitions

ARIN will consider requests for the transfer of number resources in the case of mergers and acquisitions upon receipt of evidence that the new entity has acquired assets that used the transferred resources from the current registrant. ARIN will maintain an up-to-date list of acceptable types of documentation.
In the event that number resources of the combined organizations are no longer justified under ARIN policy at the time ARIN becomes aware of the transaction, through a transfer request or otherwise, ARIN will work with the resource holder(s) to return, aggregate, or reclaim resources as appropriate via the processes outlined in current ARIN policy (for example, sections 4.6, 4.7, or 12 of the NRPM).
8.3. Transfers to Specified Recipients

In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources within the ARIN region may be released to ARIN by the authorized resource holder, in whole or in part, for transfer to another specified organizational recipient. Such transferred number resources may only be received under RSA by organizations that are within the ARIN region and can demonstrate the need for such resources, as a single aggregate, in the exact amount which they can justify under current ARIN policies.

Hope that helps.

Owen

On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:57 AM, Arif OKTAY wrote:

> Hi,
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> Can Nortel/ MS do that ? I remember RIPE policies stating that  IP addesses are not supposed to have any commercial value. RIPE should justify whether a network can use their assigment or not.  Nortel, then, should return their IP adresses back to their RIR.  I suppose Nortel is mainly working with ARIN . I’ll be surprised to see that ARIN has a different policy.
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> From: menog-bounces at menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces at menog.net] On Behalf Of Ahmed Abu-Abed
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 10:20 AM
> To: menog at menog.net
> Subject: [menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's IPv4
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> Last week Microsoft offered $7.5M to buy about 660,000 IPv4 addresses from Nortel which is selling its IPv4 addresses, from the Class-A block, as an asset in bankruptcy proceedings.
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> This comes to $11 per IPv4 address, while last year the average price ISP global cost was around $1.5 per v4 address.
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> More at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12859585 
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