[menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's IPv4

Ahmed Abu-Abed ahmed at tamkien.com
Tue Mar 29 07:49:04 GMT 2011

Up to 2010 the global consumption rate of public IPv4 was 200 million addresses per year !  No black, grey or white market will meet this demand.

Good article on this by APNIC chief scientist: http://www.circleid.com/posts/print/ipv6_and_transitional_myths/ 

IPv4 is depleted and resistance to IPv6 is futile.


From: Ghassan Tabet 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:33 AM
To: Owen DeLong ; Lu Heng 
Cc: menog at menog.net ; Brian Candler 
Subject: RE: [menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's IPv4

Check this out :



“Nortel filed for Chapter 11 on On January 14, 2009. In November, it realized its block of legacy IPv4 addresses might be worth something to its debtors and it hired Addrex, a stealthy broker of IPv4 addresses, to find a buyer. Addrex began shopping around and, in early December, asked eighty potential purchasers if they were interested. Of these, 14 expressed interest and seven actually submitted bids for all or some of the addresses, according to the court documents. Obviously, Microsoft walked with the prize for being the highest bidder.”


The court hearing will be on april 26th




From: menog-bounces at menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces at menog.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:59 AM
To: Lu Heng
Cc: menog at menog.net; Brian Candler
Subject: Re: [menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's IPv4


I am not in a position to speak for or on behalf of ARIN on this subject. What I have expressed so far are my personal understandings of ARIN policy and the facts as I understand them.



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On Mar 28, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Lu Heng <h.lu at anytimechinese.com> wrote:

  So, If I may ask, what is ARIN's current position and what can be ARIN's possible re-action(general speaking)?


  On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Owen DeLong <owend at he.net> wrote:

  On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Brian Candler wrote:

  > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:49:45PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
  >>> ARIN "opened its doors for business on 22 December 1997". So perhaps Nortel
  >>> got their address space prior to that?
  >> Quite probably, but, I don't think that matters in terms of transfer policy.
  > What I'm saying is: if they never signed an agreement with ARIN, then they
  > might not be bound by its rules.

  Nortel may or may not be bound by ARIN's rules, but, ARIN is the registry and
  as such, if you want a transfer recognized in the registry, you will need to conduct
  the transfer according to the policies present in the registry.

  Outside of the registry, anyone who wants to can run their own internet using
  whatever rules they choose to.

  Of course, what happens when one attempts to connect one of these other
  private internets to the IANA/RIR/RFC cooperating internet is rather vague
  and undefined and I leave speculations about such as an exercise for the


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