[menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer KeyInternetStewardshiptoGlobal Community

K Fattal, MLi Group Chairman Chairman at MLiGrp.com
Tue Mar 18 09:18:23 UTC 2014

Dear Fahd and Sezen, and colleagues


Fahd, well explained and well done by explaining with and without your ICANN
had. Very professionally and intelligently done.


Sezen, perhaps if you read  this public post
oze_of_chemotherapy_to_repair/> Is NTIA's Transition Decision the Right Dose
of Chemotherapy to Repair Trust in Multistakeholderism?  It may give you
another take and perspective on the NTIA's intent, challenges facing ICANN,
and the  ramifications of all this by someone who has participated in more
than 40+ ICANN meetings, Sits on Advisory committees to the ICANN presidents
current and past for years, and attended and participated directly in the
WSIS 2001 - 2005 and all WGIG and IGFs.  


I will add to what Fahd said very well, this is not just about ICANN or US
government, it is about local citizens being empowered to step up and
champion the Needs and Aspirations  of their own people and communities,
while putting their people and communities first and above their own self
interest - Not easy, but when they can, they will be undefeatable. And if
that means challenging ICANN to do better and more, so be it, this is what
Fadi is asking for. Food for thought.






Khaled Fattal | Group Chairman
The Multilingual Internet Group
Serving & Linking The Current & Next Billion+ Multilingual Internet Users
Web:  <http://mligrp.com/> http://MLiGrp.com   
Email:  <mailto:Chairman at MLiGrp.com> Chairman at MLiGrp.com  


From: menog-bounces at lists.menog.org [mailto:menog-bounces at lists.menog.org]
On Behalf Of Fahd Batayneh
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 5:34 PM
To: Sezen YEŞİL
Cc: MENOG (menog at menog.net)
Subject: Re: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer
KeyInternetStewardshiptoGlobal Community


I am not in disagreement with you Sezen, but we believe in two different


Anyways, as you said, this was the past.  And as Winston Churchill said
"Learn from the past to see the future".




From: Sezen YEŞİL [mailto:syesil at btk.gov.tr] 
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 3:43 PM
To: Fahd Batayneh
Cc: MENOG (menog at menog.net)
Subject: RE: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer
KeyInternetStewardshiptoGlobal Community


Dear Fahd,

Thank you for explaining your observations, unfortunately I do not have
enough resources to make such observations.

But I have internet access to ICANN's and IANA's web pages;

-        http://www.iana.org/help/cctld-delegation: The U.S. Department of
Commerce, as the Root Zone Administrator, is responsible for verifying that
processing procedures have been followed, and authorising any related
changes to the DNS root zone and root zone database. 

-        http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements : US government is the

So no matter how many people from the community worked hard, the final word
always belongs the US government. I meant this fact by the term 'fact'.


But, "all these years" were past and the Community is about to change these.
Then, biggest applauses and many thanks go to these folks.

All the best



From: Fahd Batayneh [mailto:fahd.batayneh at icann.org] 
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 1:40 PM
To: Sezen YEŞİL
Cc: MENOG (menog at menog.net)
Subject: RE: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer Key
InternetStewardshiptoGlobal Community


Hi Sezen,


Thank you for your email.


On the term of "Perception", I used it to mean "observation" J.


Nevertheless, removing my ICANN hat (which I have been wearing for almost 6
months now) and wearing my old community hat ( which I wore for around 5
years prior to joining ICANN), I can tell you that folks from our region
have barely been part of the ICANN process. While attending ICANN meetings,
you come across the same old faces from the region, and when participating
in the proceedings of working groups, you will find the same usual names,
too. A handful of folks from the region cannot initiate a change, but 10s or
even 100s of active members can.


If we want to make this transition as satisfactory as possible, everyone has
to play their role. One hand cannot clap, but two hands can.


Hope that helps.


Fahd Batayneh

Speaking at a personal capacity


From: menog-bounces at lists.menog.org [mailto:menog-bounces at lists.menog.org]
On Behalf Of Sezen YESIL
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 11:21 AM
To: MENOG (menog at menog.net)
Subject: Re: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer Key Internet
StewardshiptoGlobal Community


Dear Fahd,

Thank you very much for your e-mail.

We all have to play our roles, that is undestandable.

But, after all these years' performance (evidences are many, we all know
them), how can one refer to a "fact" as a "perception", sorry but that is
not understandable at least to me.

Nevertheless, applauses go to NTIA for the announcement.

All the best,



From: menog-bounces at lists.menog.org [mailto:menog-bounces at lists.menog.org]
On Behalf Of Fahd Batayneh
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:35 PM
To: MENOG (menog at menog.net)
Subject: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer Key Internet Stewardship
toGlobal Community


(sorry for cross posting)


Friends and Colleagues,


As there has been lots of news circulated on the U.S. Transfer of Key
Internet Stewardship to Global Community, the following is a one-stop email
for what has been released so far:


·       NTIA Announcement --

·       ICANN Announcement --

·       Reaction of Internet Technical Leaders --

·       Reaction of ICANN's BoD Chair (Video) --

·       Reaction of ICANN's President and CEO (Video) --

·       FAQ Sheet on the Process --

·       Public Consultation Process --


As many have viewed ICANN and IANA to be US centric all these years, the
time has come to change this perception by jumping on-board and engaging in
the discussions. If we are to strengthen our regional  Internet Governance
ecosystem and domain name industry, we have to all join the discussions.


Thank you,


Fahd Batayneh


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