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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dear Mr. Fahad,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>to make things more clear, I am from a telco background and I know
the principals of toll bypass as well as LCR. when I come to the MENOG (which
was my first visit and most important visit) I realized that the same principal
can be applied on IP traffic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>so what I am going to do and am looking for is to have 4-6
dishes in Iraq, that connect us to each continent over the shortest (cheapest)
path. I want to buy as little transit services as possible. that why I want to
replace our current 120mbps main link with multiple VSAT links to achieve redundancy
and LCR.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>this is the real reason behind all this conversation and I am
very happy with the responses I receive, as I can see a community helping each
other. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>this MENOG thing is really a nice idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best regards,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Kiyam Kadir</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Goran Net ISP</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Business Consultant</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>EMail: <a href="mailto:kiyam@gorannet.net">kiyam@gorannet.net</a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tel: 00964 (0) 770 2 666 666</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
menog-bounces@menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>fahad@2connectbahrain.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2009 19:46<br>
<b>To:</b> Kiyam Kadir; 'Alrasheed, Ahmed'; menog@menog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [menog] Satellite Transport Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>In the country you operate in,
do you have a license for satellite landing station? Are you looking for
backbone over satellite or? <o:p></o:p></p>

<p>Sent from my BlackBerry&reg; wireless device from MTC-Vodafone<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b>From</b>: &quot;Kiyam Kadir&quot; <br>
<b>Date</b>: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:25:56 +0300<br>
<b>To</b>: &lt;fahad@2connectbahrain.com&gt;; &lt;menog-bounces@menog.net&gt;;
'Alrasheed, Ahmed'&lt;Ahmeda@gatewaygulf.net&gt;; &lt;menog@menog.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject</b>: RE: [menog] Satellite Transport Services<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dear Mr. Fahad,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>please explain more about what you mean with &#8220;legal
landing rights&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best regards,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Kiyam Kadir</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Goran Net ISP</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Business Consultant</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>EMail: <a href="mailto:kiyam@gorannet.net">kiyam@gorannet.net</a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tel: 00964 (0) 770 2 666 666</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
fahad@2connectbahrain.com [mailto:fahad@2connectbahrain.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2009 18:21<br>
<b>To:</b> Kiyam Kadir; menog-bounces@menog.net; 'Alrasheed, Ahmed';
menog@menog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [menog] Satellite Transport Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>If you have legal landing
rights and you need significant bandwidth, you should be transponder capacity
from satellite owners rather than service provider.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p>Sent from my BlackBerry&reg; wireless device from MTC-Vodafone<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b>From</b>: &quot;Kiyam Kadir&quot; <br>
<b>Date</b>: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:31:48 +0300<br>
<b>To</b>: 'Alrasheed, Ahmed'&lt;Ahmeda@gatewaygulf.net&gt;; 'Kiyam
Kadir'&lt;kiyam@gorannet.net&gt;; &lt;menog@menog.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject</b>: RE: [menog] Satellite Transport Services<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dear Mr. Al-Rasheed,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>the satellite I need should be able to handle capacities of up
to 200Mbps at most. do you think this company offers such a service?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best regards,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
menog-bounces@menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alrasheed,
Ahmed<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2009 14:12<br>
<b>To:</b> Kiyam Kadir; menog@menog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [menog] Satellite Transport Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dear Kiyam,<br>
<br>
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wired/wireless broadband communications systems.<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: menog-bounces@menog.net on behalf of Kiyam Kadir<br>
Sent: Mon 20-Apr-09 1:11 PM<br>
To: menog@menog.net<br>
Subject: [menog] Satellite Transport Services<br>
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Dear Colleagues,<br>
<br>
I hope you all are doing well. Please help me to find out of Satellite<br>
Operators that have coverage over middle-east and Europe, as well as asia.<br>
<br>
I want to setup a semi-full mesh with a few continents to have multiple<br>
POPs.<br>
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<br>
thank you in advance<br>
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Thank you<br>
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Best regards,<br>
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Kiyam Kadir<br>
<br>
Goran Net ISP<br>
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Business Consultant<br>
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EMail:&nbsp; &lt;<a href="mailto:kiyam@gorannet.net">mailto:kiyam@gorannet.net</a>&gt;
kiyam@gorannet.net<br>
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Tel: 00964 (0) 770 2 666 666<br>
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