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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Shady, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>To remove your email from the
list you need to go to the site and opt out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Rest,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The problem with v6 is not it’s
business case. The business case quite simply is whether you can continue to
grow or not… Everyone has eloquently stated that in one way or another. The ‘problem’
is simply about rate of uptake. An ISP or Telco running v6 today will most
probably have to NAT its core network when interconnecting with its upstream,
or, if it’s upstream is v6 ready, it’s upstream provider will have to NAT when
connecting to other content holders. I think it’s about time we stop focusing
on the carriers move to v6 and look at kicking content owners (the big ones who
aren’t ready at least) to be v6 ready. Also, kick your upstream providers.
Finally, there is another problem but it’s slowly being fixed: user CPEs… When
we all talk about ‘enhanced security’ and features and so on… We are really
talking about the business user… Who technically probably already has a v6
router at the end of you connection… But come talk about DSL based broadband
and the choices of cpe suppliers are very limited…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So… Kick your suppliers too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Fahad.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Shady El Shazly
[mailto:shady.elshazly@mail.link.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hassan Al-Sayed; Abdulrahman Al Marzouqi; Network Architecture Unit;
'Salman Al-Mannai'; fahad@2connectbahrain.com; richard.barnes@gmail.com;
ahmed@tamkien.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> menog@menog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Your conversation is really interesting, but my email address was
mentioned somewhere (Which I can’t find) in your mailing addresses and I don’t
think that I have any input in this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>So, kindly remove the email from your emailing list. It is
either the sender’s email or <a href="mailto:courses@mail.link.net">courses@mail.link.net</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your cooperation and understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>BR,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Shady<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
menog-bounces@menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hassan
Al-Sayed<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Abdulrahman Al Marzouqi; Network Architecture Unit; 'Salman
Al-Mannai'; fahad@2connectbahrain.com; richard.barnes@gmail.com;
ahmed@tamkien.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> menog@menog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=fb24ee89-1a43-4938-a466-e89e2313b67c> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Definitely Customers won’t ask
for IPv6 per say, but they would feel its impact. Many people don’t know what
is this new technology all about, once implemented they’d probably appreciate
it. It is “Build it, and they will buy” strategy. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I guess short term numbers gain
is the name of the game in most ISPs, Where survival should be the immediate
priority. As I said, it might be too early , but it is about time to start
thinking IPv6.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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<b>Cc:</b> menog@menog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Hello All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I wanted to share my views on this interesting topic.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I think customers do not care much about what protocols
you’ll use/provide as long as it delivers the services they want (Web, Email,
FTP, Multimedia, File sharing ..etc), so don’t expect a lot of customers will
come running asking for IPV6. Which does not mean you should act slowly because
it is not “customer priority”.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Here is a simple business case.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Operators are only delaying the inevitable. I think there
is a cost to that; the more you delay the less prepared you are, the more fixes
you need to do, the more cost you'll incur in the long run. Operators operating
in markets with high growth rate (specially New entrants/ISPs) should be
more worried considering the limited resources remaining of IPV4 and more
conservative assignment policies of RIRs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks & Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Eng. Abdul Rahman Al Marzouqi. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Manager - Internet Advancement <br>
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From: menog-bounces@menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 1:03 PM<br>
To: Network Architecture Unit; 'Salman Al-Mannai'; fahad@2connectbahrain.com;
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Cc: menog@menog.net<br>
Subject: RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Hello gents,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Hope all are doing well, please allow me to contribute to
this interesting topic, I have been a silent member but definitely enjoying
your valuable input.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>With regards to the importance of IPv6. If we are talking
business profits, then according to predictions say that ISPs may not be able
to survive with IPv4 after 2012! Internet is running out of IPs, so here
is a strong business case.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Well maybe there is a debate around these predictions, if
we talk customer-service rather than business profits, IPv6 security and QoS
features would give the customers more confidence in using the Internet and
more satisfaction with ISPs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Yes maybe not many operators implemented IPv6, regionally
or internationally, but I guess Service providers must prepare now, and enjoy
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<p class=MsoPlainText>From: menog-bounces@menog.net
[mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] On Behalf Of Network Architecture Unit<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:51 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'Salman Al-Mannai'; fahad@2connectbahrain.com;
richard.barnes@gmail.com; ahmed@tamkien.com<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Cc: menog@menog.net<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Gentlemen,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>In my humble opinion, IPv6 is still weak in our region
for the following<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>reasons:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>1- There is no 'need' for it yet; what is rewarding about
deploying it now?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Does it hurt if you don't? It has to be mapped to the
business profit.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>2- What is the roadmap for our region?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sometimes a new technology or standard is best pushed by
forcing it. "If you<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>don't adopt regulation #12345 you will suffer this and
that..." It works for<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Bill Gates anyway ;)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>And usually top managers consider that "if it's not
broken, don't fix it!"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>After all, every company has much more priorities that
need to be addressed,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>and sometimes freezing pays well, as a new technology
emerges and you deploy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>it in one shot. I hope this was helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>From: menog-bounces@menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net]
On Behalf Of<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Salman Al-Mannai<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:10 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'fahad@2connectbahrain.com';
'richard.barnes@gmail.com';<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>'ahmed@tamkien.com'<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Cc: 'menog@menog.net'<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Who told you it is the board? Brd has another acronym -
I'll tell in person<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>if you agree to attend the PKI conference in Tunis on
24th of Jan :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>More info can be found on www.aicto.org<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent on the move from BlackBerry Wireless Device by Qtel.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>From: Fahad AlShirawi <fahad@2connectbahrain.com><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>To: Salman Al-Mannai; richard.barnes@gmail.com
<richard.barnes@gmail.com>;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>ahmed@tamkien.com <ahmed@tamkien.com><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Cc: menog@menog.net <menog@menog.net><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Wed Jan 13 23:00:13 2010<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: RE: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I think TP/IX shouldn't be mentioned for different
reasons ;)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Salman your board seem to be a lot of fun ;) I want to
meet them and talk<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>v12 ;) Just for fun!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>From: menog-bounces@menog.net
[mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] On Behalf Of<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Salman Al-Mannai<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:34 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'richard.barnes@gmail.com'; 'ahmed@tamkien.com'<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Cc: 'menog@menog.net'<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Please gentlemen, don't announce IPv7, if our esteemed
brd hear about it I<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>loose my job :(<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent on the move from BlackBerry Wireless Device by Qtel.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>From: menog-bounces@menog.net
<menog-bounces@menog.net><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>To: Ahmed Abu-Abed <ahmed@tamkien.com><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Cc: menog@menog.net <menog@menog.net><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Wed Jan 13 21:04:14 2010<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Fahad: What about 2Connect? Are you guys offering
IPv6?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Ahmed: Sorry to tell you, but IPv7 is already taken, for
TP/IX:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><http://www.iana.org/assignments/version-numbers/version-numbers.xhtml><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Get working on IPv10!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>--Richard<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Ahmed Abu-Abed
<ahmed@tamkien.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> I guess one can reply we're working on implementing
IP version 7 as it has<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> better features (and rhymes with the latest Windows
version :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> For those interested Tamkien is a consulting company
recently setup with a<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> focus on advanced IP solutions including IPv6 access
gear/terminals for<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>ISPs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> (the products are already deployed with major ISPs)
... The website is not<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> ready yet but feel free to ask for product
information.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> -Ahmed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> ----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> From: fahad@2connectbahrain.com<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> To: Salman Al-Mannai ; menog-bounces@menog.net ;
'ahmed@tamkien.com' ;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> 'menog@menog.net'<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:58 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Subject: Re: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Salman you just made my night! v6 is out and you're
not even at 5!!!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Ahmed, what does Tamkien do? Just tried to go to
your site but it's<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>password<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> protected?!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Fahad.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from
MTC-Vodafone<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> ________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> From: Salman Al-Mannai <SMANNAI@qtel.com.qa><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:28:13 +0300<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> To: 'ahmed@tamkien.com'<ahmed@tamkien.com>;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> 'menog@menog.net'<menog@menog.net><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Subject: Re: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> I've been away from the MENOG for over a year now,
only last week I was<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> approached by someone from the 'top brd' who made a
very strong statement<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> about IPv6 after asking me which IP version we have
in the company? :\ of<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> course my answer was IPv4! Then he replied in a
steaming mode: See how<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>lousy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> you are doing, I just heard that IPv6 is out and you
are not even at<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>version<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> 5!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> This leads to one conclusion; we have not build
enough awareness about<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>IPv6<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> in the region, hence, I would like to see more
participation from bright<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> names such as Randy Bush and Dr. Latif Ladid in
future MENOG events.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Sent on the move from BlackBerry Wireless Device by
Qtel.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> ________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> From: menog-bounces@menog.net<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> To: menog@menog.net<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Sent: Wed Jan 13 18:08:45 2010<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Subject: [menog] ISPs and IPv6 access<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Are their any ISPs (or other network providers) on
the MENOG list that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>wish<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> to offer IPv6 access to their subscribers ? I like
to know what are the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>main<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> issues that are preventing offering this service.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> -Ahmed<o:p></o:p></p>
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