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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>ARIN rules could be difficult to impose on
pre-IANA blocks; Nortel had IP addresses before IANA and ARIN came into
existence, so this may go to court if ARIN wants to block it. But Microsoft
could have a right to ask for these addresses as they are into cloud
services which needs a lot of IPs, so ARIN may agree. And </FONT><FONT
face=Calibri>IANA records shows Bell Northern Research, later part of
Nortel, was assigned its own /8 block in January
1991.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Supply and demand rules mean that IPv4 address costs
will only go up, so Microsoft likely got a really good deal. </FONT><FONT
face=Calibri>And Asia-Pacific v4 addresses, from APNIC, are drying up within a
month (by April !), so the v4 shortage situation will be worse. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Even if one has enough v4 addresses , we will
reach a point sometime within the next 2 years when we will need
v6 access to connect to global IP services that are starved of v4.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>-Ahmed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=h.lu@anytimechinese.com
href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com">Lu Heng</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:27 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=owend@he.net href="mailto:owend@he.net">Owen DeLong</A>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A
title="mailto:menog@menog.net CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:menog@menog.net">menog@menog.net</A> ; <A title=B.Candler@pobox.com
href="mailto:B.Candler@pobox.com">Brian Candler</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's
IPv4</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>So, If I may ask, what is ARIN's current position and what can be
ARIN's possible re-action(general speaking)?
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Owen DeLong <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:owend@he.net">owend@he.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV class=im><BR>On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Brian Candler
wrote:<BR><BR>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:49:45PM -0700, Owen DeLong
wrote:<BR>>>> ARIN "opened its doors for business on 22 December
1997". So perhaps Nortel<BR>>>> got their address space prior to
that?<BR>>><BR>>> Quite probably, but, I don't think that matters
in terms of transfer policy.<BR>><BR>> What I'm saying is: if they never
signed an agreement with ARIN, then they<BR>> might not be bound by its
rules.<BR><BR></DIV>Nortel may or may not be bound by ARIN's rules, but, ARIN
is the registry and<BR>as such, if you want a transfer recognized in the
registry, you will need to conduct<BR>the transfer according to the policies
present in the registry.<BR><BR>Outside of the registry, anyone who wants to
can run their own internet using<BR>whatever rules they choose to.<BR><BR>Of
course, what happens when one attempts to connect one of these
other<BR>private internets to the IANA/RIR/RFC cooperating internet is rather
vague<BR>and undefined and I leave speculations about such as an exercise for
the<BR>reader.<BR><FONT color=#888888><BR>Owen<BR></FONT>
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