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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Up to 2010 the global consumption rate of public IPv4
was 200 million addresses <EM>per year !</EM> </FONT><FONT
face=Calibri>No black, grey or white market will meet this demand.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Good article on this by APNIC chief scientist: <A
title="http://www.circleid.com/posts/print/ipv6_and_transitional_myths/ CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/print/ipv6_and_transitional_myths/">http://www.circleid.com/posts/print/ipv6_and_transitional_myths/</A> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>IPv4 is depleted and resistance to IPv6 is
futile.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>-Ahmed</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=g.tabet@tarasultelecom.com
href="mailto:g.tabet@tarasultelecom.com">Ghassan Tabet</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:33 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=owend@he.net href="mailto:owend@he.net">Owen DeLong</A>
; <A title=h.lu@anytimechinese.com href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com">Lu
Heng</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=menog@menog.net
href="mailto:menog@menog.net">menog@menog.net</A> ; <A title=B.Candler@pobox.com
href="mailto:B.Candler@pobox.com">Brian Candler</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's
IPv4</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Check
this out :<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><A
href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/72498">http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/72498</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“</SPAN>Nortel
filed for Chapter 11 on On January 14, 2009. In November, it realized its block
of legacy IPv4 addresses might be worth something to its debtors and it hired <A
href="http://addrex.net/">Addrex</A>, a stealthy broker of IPv4 addresses, to
find a buyer. Addrex began shopping around and, in early December, asked eighty
potential purchasers if they were interested. Of these, 14 expressed interest
and seven actually submitted bids for all or some of the addresses, according to
the court documents. Obviously, Microsoft walked with the prize for being the
highest bidder.”<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The court hearing will be on april
26<SUP>th</SUP><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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menog-bounces@menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Owen DeLong<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:59 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Lu
Heng<BR><B>Cc:</B> menog@menog.net; Brian Candler<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog]
Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's IPv4<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I am not in a position to speak for or on behalf of ARIN on
this subject. What I have expressed so far are my personal understandings of
ARIN policy and the facts as I understand them.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Owen<BR><BR>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>On Mar 28, 2011, at 6:27 PM,
Lu Heng <<A
href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>So, If I may ask, what is ARIN's current position and what
can be ARIN's possible re-action(general speaking)?<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Owen DeLong <<A
href="mailto:owend@he.net">owend@he.net</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:12
PM, Brian Candler wrote:<BR><BR>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:49:45PM -0700,
Owen DeLong wrote:<BR>>>> ARIN "opened its doors for business on 22
December 1997". So perhaps Nortel<BR>>>> got their address space
prior to that?<BR>>><BR>>> Quite probably, but, I don't think that
matters in terms of transfer policy.<BR>><BR>> What I'm saying is: if
they never signed an agreement with ARIN, then they<BR>> might not be bound
by its rules.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Nortel may or may not be bound by ARIN's rules, but, ARIN
is the registry and<BR>as such, if you want a transfer recognized in the
registry, you will need to conduct<BR>the transfer according to the policies
present in the registry.<BR><BR>Outside of the registry, anyone who wants to
can run their own internet using<BR>whatever rules they choose to.<BR><BR>Of
course, what happens when one attempts to connect one of these
other<BR>private internets to the IANA/RIR/RFC cooperating internet is rather
vague<BR>and undefined and I leave speculations about such as an exercise for
the<BR>reader.<BR><SPAN style="COLOR: #888888"><BR>Owen</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Kind regards.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Lu<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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