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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Wasn’t Nortel bought by Avaya few years back ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=192 height=34 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CBEE56.CB7F5930" alt="Description: think before you print 2"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> menog-bounces@menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ghassan Tabet<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> Owen DeLong; Lu Heng<br><b>Cc:</b> menog@menog.net; Brian Candler<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's IPv4<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Check this out :<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/72498">http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/72498</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“</span>Nortel filed for Chapter 11 on On January 14, 2009. In November, it realized its block of legacy IPv4 addresses might be worth something to its debtors and it hired <a href="http://addrex.net/">Addrex</a>, a stealthy broker of IPv4 addresses, to find a buyer. Addrex began shopping around and, in early December, asked eighty potential purchasers if they were interested. Of these, 14 expressed interest and seven actually submitted bids for all or some of the addresses, according to the court documents. Obviously, Microsoft walked with the prize for being the highest bidder.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The court hearing will be on april 26<sup>th</sup><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> menog-bounces@menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Owen DeLong<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> Lu Heng<br><b>Cc:</b> menog@menog.net; Brian Candler<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's IPv4<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am not in a position to speak for or on behalf of ARIN on this subject. What I have expressed so far are my personal understandings of ARIN policy and the facts as I understand them.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Owen<br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Mar 28, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Lu Heng <<a href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>So, If I may ask, what is ARIN's current position and what can be ARIN's possible re-action(general speaking)?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owend@he.net">owend@he.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Brian Candler wrote:<br><br>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:49:45PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:<br>>>> ARIN "opened its doors for business on 22 December 1997". So perhaps Nortel<br>>>> got their address space prior to that?<br>>><br>>> Quite probably, but, I don't think that matters in terms of transfer policy.<br>><br>> What I'm saying is: if they never signed an agreement with ARIN, then they<br>> might not be bound by its rules.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Nortel may or may not be bound by ARIN's rules, but, ARIN is the registry and<br>as such, if you want a transfer recognized in the registry, you will need to conduct<br>the transfer according to the policies present in the registry.<br><br>Outside of the registry, anyone who wants to can run their own internet using<br>whatever rules they choose to.<br><br>Of course, what happens when one attempts to connect one of these other<br>private internets to the IANA/RIR/RFC cooperating internet is rather vague<br>and undefined and I leave speculations about such as an exercise for the<br>reader.<br><span style='color:#888888'><br>Owen</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Menog mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Menog@menog.net">Menog@menog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.menog.net/mailman/listinfo/menog">http://lists.menog.net/mailman/listinfo/menog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kind regards.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Lu<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>This message is a private communication. 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