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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Routing table issues need to be resolved for the benefit
of everyone on the Internet, and the MENOG mailing list is the best way (in my
opinion) to reach out to the Middle East operators who may have overseen a
routing detail in their system. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>The STC routing table issue was mentioned last Sep.
9th on MENOG's mail list. If it hasn't been resolved yet then a friendly
reminder to the operator is due.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>The original message was not a spamming attack, but
a technical note that was addressed to MENOG in an "unconventional" way. Its
author apologized and we need to get back on track using this forum
positively.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>-Ahmed</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=wassef@cyberia.net.sa
href="mailto:wassef@cyberia.net.sa">Mohammad Wassef</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 24, 2011 8:40 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
title="mailto:menog@menog.net CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:menog@menog.net">menog@menog.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] SaudiTelecom</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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[mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kais
Al-Essa<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 24, 2011 8:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:menog@menog.net">menog@menog.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog]
SaudiTelecom<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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already too low anyways. It adds a fraction to your weekly mail read.<BR>I
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dir=rtl class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6pt" lang=AR-SA>إن هذا
البريد الإلكتروني المرسل من قبل صحارى نت يحتوي على محتويات سرية مرسلة إلى
جهة/ متلقٍ مقصود. إذا لم تكن أنت المتلقي المقصود، فإن هذا البريد
الإلكتروني قد وصلك عن طريق الخطأ، لذا فإنه يمنع منعا باتا أي استخدام أو
إعادة إرسال أو نشر أو طباعة أونسخ كل أو جزء من هذا البريد الإلكتروني بأي
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نرجو التكرم بالرد على المرسل وإخطاره بهذا الخطأ، ومن ثم الإسراع بحذف هذا
البريد الإلكتروني من الأجهزة والأنظمة الخاصة بكم. وعلى الرغم من أن هذا
البريد الإلكتروني تم فحصه وتمحيصه بحثا عن الفيروسات، إلا أن صحارى نت لا
تتحمل أي مسؤولية عن أية فيروسات قد تصيب أجهزتكم وأنظمتكم، بل إن التأكد من
حماية أجهزتكم وأنظمتكم هو محض مسؤوليتكم.</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><BR>On 10/23/2011 7:51 PM, Samira Salbi wrote:
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Pls
exclude us from your mailing list.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I guess
this is the ultimate objective of these people: weakening menog and make it
irrelevant, it happens when lots of people begin to opt
out.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
gh.alkayyem@sawaisp.sy [mailto:gh.alkayyem@sawaisp.sy] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 23
October 2011 13:02<BR><B>To:</B> Mohammad Wassef<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'Samira Salbi';
'Ahmed Abu-Abed'; 'Richard Barnes'; 'Keegan Holley';
menog@menog.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog]
SaudiTelecom</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Yes,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">this
would be a very good idea since unsubscribe facilities doesn't
work.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear
all</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Would
you please exclude us from your mailing list</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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class=MsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 8pt">Regards</SPAN></STRONG><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 8pt">Mohammad
Wassef</SPAN></STRONG><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 8pt">Sr.Core
Network Engineer</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">CYBERIA</SPAN><SUP><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: red; FONT-SIZE: 8pt">®
</SPAN></SUP><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 8pt">SAUDI
ARABIA</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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class=MsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
menog-bounces@menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] <STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">On Behalf Of </SPAN></STRONG>Samira
Salbi<BR><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></STRONG> Saturday,
October 22, 2011 2:56 PM<BR><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></STRONG> 'Ahmed Abu-Abed';
'Richard Barnes'; 'Keegan Holley'; menog@menog.net<BR><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></STRONG> Re: [menog]
SaudiTelecom</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This is
not good enough. Who are these people and how did they have access to menog
mailing list?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We must
be told.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Samira
Salbi</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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class=MsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
menog-bounces@menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces@menog.net] <STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">On Behalf Of </SPAN></STRONG>Ahmed
Abu-Abed<BR><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></STRONG> 22 October 2011
12:39<BR><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></STRONG> Richard Barnes;
Keegan Holley; menog@menog.net<BR><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></STRONG> Re: [menog]
SaudiTelecom</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">"Someone with
the ever illusive clue" ... do you really think this approach helps in getting
any cooperation from a tier-1 national operator ?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-Ahmed</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:richard.barnes@gmail.com" target=_blank>Richard Barnes</A>
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Friday, October 21,
2011 11:28 PM</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:keegan.holley@sungard.com" target=_blank>Keegan Holley</A> ; <A
title="This external link will open in a new window"
href="mailto:menog@menog.net" target=_blank>menog@menog.net</A>
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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class=MsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [menog]
SaudiTelecom</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P>Forwarding to MENOG...<o:p></o:p></P>
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class=MsoNormal>On Oct 21, 2011 4:01 PM, "Keegan Holley" <A
href="mailto:keegan.holley@sungard.com">keegan.holley@sungard.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>Despite this being a north american list anyone know how I can
speak with<BR>someone from saudi telecom. Preferably someone with the ever
illusive clue?<o:p></o:p></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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