<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear Hani,</div><div>The document you have shared is really amazing. Is the system aware of the advanced applications or random ports-based applications?</div><div>Is there a list of applications also?</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,<br><br><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; "><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Maher El Zein</b></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; "><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">CCIE No. 21032 | CCDE</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; "><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Lead Architect, Networks and Security</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; "></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; "><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Beirut, Lebanon<span lang="EN-US"></span></span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><div><br></div></span><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; "><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mobile: <a href="tel:+961.76903142" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="0/1">+96176903142</a><br><span lang="EN-US"></span></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; "><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Email: <a href="mailto:maherzein@hotmail.com"><span style="text-decoration: none; ">maherzein@hotmail.com</span></a> <br></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; "><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/maher-ali-elzein-ccie-no-21032-ccde/6/b60/315" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: none; ">Linkedin Profile</span></a> </span></p><div><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 112, 192); "><br></span></div></div><div><br>On 22 Oct 2013, at 14:46, "Hani Abuelkhair" <<a href="mailto:netmanb2k@gmail.com">netmanb2k@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>If any one is interesting to find a solution for caching http, and P2P with filtering and blocking (all in one) don't hesitate to contact me any time <br><br><div style="text-align: left;direction: ltr; ">--------------------------</div><div style="text-align: left;direction: ltr; ">Hani Abuelkhair</div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:51, Samah Mukhtar Amin Abdelrahman <<a href="mailto:s.mukhtar@canar.com.sd">s.mukhtar@canar.com.sd</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Hany,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> I found your Blog is very interested and useful as we are here in Sudan facing same issues regarding the web-filtering solutions and using the
bluecoat as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I will contact you in the next days to know more about the WireFilter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Samah
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org">menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</a> [<a href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org">mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hany Almansour<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 21, 2013 11:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Barnes; <a href="mailto:iab@iab.org">iab@iab.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:menog@menog.net">menog@menog.net</a>; Alissa Cooper<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [menog] Internet Service Blocking and Filtering<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">thanks for sharing the document, my comment is only on the "network based blocking" :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. In some cases<span style="color:black"> the intermediary is totally transparent in the network but it </span>needs to give a message to the end-point that the resource is blocked which complicate the protocol. however it is possible
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. there is symmetric and asymmetric filtering techniques. up to my knowledge the asymmetric filtering technique is less complex and can be used on large scale ISP. please see my blog about "<span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#2C2B2B">Internet
filtering in Saudi Arabia" : <a href="http://www.hany.org/?p=517">http://www.hany.org/?p=517</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will read the remaining and feed you back if i have any comment<o:p></o:p></p>
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http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-filtering-considerations-04</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> The Internet is structured to be an open communications medium. This<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> it can also allow communications that may be viewed as undesirable by<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> communications. Recently, there has been an increasing emphasis on<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please send feedback to me, the co-editors (on the CC), or the IAB (<a href="mailto:iab@iab.org" target="_blank">iab@iab.org</a>, who will be ultimately responsible for publication or not).<o:p></o:p></p>
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