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<DIV>Please elaborate on what is 10 years too late, do you mean IDN is late
?</DIV>
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<DIV>-Ahmed</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=steve.wilcox@ixreach.com
href="mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com">Stephen Wilcox</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 28, 2013 2:53 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com">Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Timothy@tra.gov.om
href="mailto:Timothy@tra.gov.om">Timothy Roy</A> ; <A title=menog@menog.net
href="mailto:menog@menog.net">mailto:menog@menog.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Not wishing to sound skeptical, but isnt this all coming about 10 years too
late and thats the reason for the lack of adoption?</DIV>
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<DIV>The device of choice is a smartphone or tablet, these are app and icon
based.</DIV>
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<DIV>Being old fashioned I still use a computer but mostly find things, even
common websites by inputting the common name into a search bar (or browser bar -
Chrome doesnt distinguish) and the result is a clickable list of search results,
which will be in the local script and language. </DIV>
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<DIV>eg the average user never inputs urls anyway, but when they do they likely
input arabic text directly to the browser for a search term and get a list of
website titles and then click them. they dont pay attention to the underlying
URL that much any more</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Compare to this address books on mobile phones. In the 90s I could tell you
anyone's phone number from memory, now I know maybe my own and my Mums and thats
about it..</DIV>
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<DIV>Steve</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_extra><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 28 October 2013 08:38, Ahmed Abu-Abed <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com"
target=_blank>ahmed@tamkien.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>The Arabic version of "net" would come at the beginning of the domain
name, as we don't have an equivalent of "www". Thus in Oman's case it would
still end in .oman in Arabic.</DIV>
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<DIV>IMO, as techies we may not be the best ones to judge which is better, ie.
to keep an equivalent of www or drop it. The domain name's marketing staff
should decide on this, with the aim of gaining more interest to their website
if promoting an Arabic IDN. Registrar's may provide both options to their
customers to encourage Arabic IDN adoption.<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN>Regards,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>-Ahmed</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On 2013-10-28, at 8:05 AM, Timothy Roy <<A
href="mailto:Timothy@tra.gov.om" target=_blank>Timothy@tra.gov.om</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
believe that the Arabic version of net would cause more confusion. I think
that keeping simpler is better. I know that here in Oman we have been
pushing and promoting the .oman(Arabic) IDN quite extensively.
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
also believe that for an organization to actually have the Arabic content
and URL they need to access their market. If they want to reach or promote
their business to the MENOG regions (or regions of their specific country)
that have a lesser comprehension of English language then they should go for
it. As a registry we are trying to promote it but it is mainly up to
the Registrars to promote it to obtain more business in this field of domain
names.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">My
quick observations.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Best
Regards<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Timothy
Roy<U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Regulatory
and Compliance Unit<U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Domain
Name Operations<U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Telecommunications
Regulatory Authority.</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d">Tel: <A
href="tel:%2B968%2024574858" target=_blank value="+96824574858">+968
24574858</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d">Mobile: <A
href="tel:%2B968%2093551117" target=_blank value="+96893551117">+968
93551117</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d">Email:
</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d"><A
href="mailto:timothy@tra.gov.om" target=_blank><SPAN
style="COLOR: #17365d">timothy@tra.gov.om</SPAN></A></SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Garamond','serif'; COLOR: #0f243e">Office
hours: Sunday – Thursday, 7:30am – 3:00pm (Muscat GMT +4)</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Script MT Bold'; COLOR: #0f243e"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ahmed
Abu-Abed<BR><B>Sent:</B> 28 October 2013 08:55<BR><B>To:</B> Fahd
Batayneh<BR><B>Cc:</B> menog@menog. net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's popularity<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
agree, the term “www” may seem redundant at first look, but it certainly
indicates what is coming next is a web site. In other words, it is like a
“Mr.” or “Dr.” title that give you a rough idea of the person you are
referring to. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Should
we have an Arabic “www” equivalent to grab peoples attention to Arabic IDN ?
Something like </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA dir=rtl>äÊ</SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN> (translated into “net”) so instead of </SPAN><SPAN
lang=AR-SA dir=rtl>ÚãÇä.ÇáÇÑÏä</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> the website owner should
promote </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
dir=rtl>äÊ.ÚãÇä..ÇáÇÑÏä</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">This
will likely get more attention to Arabic IDNs.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">My 0.02
Dinar thoughts ...</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-Ahmed</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=fahd.batayneh@icann.org href="mailto:fahd.batayneh@icann.org"
target=_blank>Fahd Batayneh</A> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Monday, October
28, 2013 12:23 AM<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien..com" target=_blank>Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net"
target=_blank>mailto:menog@menog.net</A> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> RE: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's popularity<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
have actually seen Arabic URLs posted in public areas in the UAE, yet it is
not gaining the marketing advantages it seeks.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">There
have been discussions within New gTLD applicants on whether to encourage New
gTLD registrants (once these new gTLDs are delegated and are generally
available) to advertise their online presence using “www” in front of the
URL or not; i.e. <A href="http://www.menog.anything"
target=_blank>www.menog.anything</A> vs. </SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">menog.anything</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">.
For those who might not know, the inventor of the term “www” in front of
URLs has admitted that such an addition was a mistake in the first place.
Yet, after thorough discussions, those involved have concluded that in order
for people to understand what </SPAN><SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">menog.anything</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">
is, it is best that “www” is added in front of the URL for advertising
purposes. I believe this to be the case for IDNs we well; i.e. some just
don’t understand what </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-JO
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"
dir=rtl>ãËÇá.ÇÎÊÈÇÑ</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> is.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">My
2 cents.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Fahd<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<DIV>
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style="BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ahmed
Abu-Abed<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:51 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tom
Paseka<BR><B>Cc:</B> menog@menog. net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's popularity<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
Tom,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Country
code TLDs have been available since 2010 for 4 Arab countries at least.
Unfortunately its not on most peoples priority list for implementing, and I
have not noticed any advertising for an Arabic URL over the past couple of
years (I live in the MENOG region).<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">As for
CloudFlares IDNs, it would be good to filter out which are using the Arabic
alphabet and know how many Arabic IDNs are actually out there. That would
require a good understanding of Punycode used to translate an IDN into Latin
characters.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Regards,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-Ahmed<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=tom+menog@cloudflare.com href="mailto:tom+menog@cloudflare.com"
target=_blank>Tom Paseka</A> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Sunday, October
27, 2013 7:20 PM<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com" target=_blank>Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net"
target=_blank>mailto:menog@menog.net</A> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Re: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's popularity<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
Ahmed, <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I've
had a look through CloudFlare's customers and we see thousands of IDN's, but
this is nothing compared to what exists in pre-existing romanized domains.
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">For a
pre-existing company to move to a IDN, or any new domain in general, they
have to revamp their presence, re-market to everyone to make sure they visit
the correct address. I assume this isn't an easy task.
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
suspect you'll see new starters coming out from the get-go with an IDN, but
it'll take a while for the existing content to start
adoption.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Cheers,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Tom<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">On Sun,
Oct 27, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Ahmed Abu-Abed <<A
href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com" target=_blank>ahmed@tamkien.com</A>>
wrote:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">ICANN
is in the news with the new </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA dir=rtl>ÔÈßÉ</SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN> TLD, see <A
title=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24637673
href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24637673"
target=_blank>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24637673</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I am
yet to see Arabic TLDs widely implemented, although most browsers are ready,
even on iOS and Android which I tested with an Arabic URL. Any idea on why
is the delay in implementing Arabic URL by content providers (newspapers,
etc.) ? People in the region prefer Arabic websites, so I am wondering
what’s stopping content providers from having Arabic
URLs.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Also,
anyone know if major portals, like Google or Yahoo, have implemented IDNs in
any language for their URL ? Something like </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
dir=rtl>íÇåæ.ÔÈßÉ</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN> (which translates to <A href="http://Yahoo.net"
target=_blank>Yahoo.net</A> , as I cannot find an equivalent to .com as an
Arabic TLD).<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Best
Regards,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Ahmed
Abu-Abed<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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