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<DIV>Folks,</DIV>
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<DIV>Implementing IDNs is not rocket science, and has little to do with R&D
and innovation. Its for the benefit of the average Arab user on the street who
has an Arabic interface everywhere on his PC and mobile and an Arabic IDN would
helpful too while browsing the web. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-Ahmed</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fahd.batayneh@icann.org
href="mailto:fahd.batayneh@icann.org">Fahd Batayneh</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:17 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=steve.wilcox@ixreach.com
href="mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com">Stephen Wilcox</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=menog@menog.net
href="mailto:menog@menog.net">mailto:menog@menog.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Steve,
you have mentioned very important and valid points about the region. While
Amman, Jordan is considered the Silicon Valley of the Middle East, I always say
that it is an over-stated statement simply because while a Silicon Valley is a
place for innovation and creativity, Amman is an IT hub where we have excellent
IT professionals who learn new technologies, but do not innovate any. The weak
link in this part of the world is lack of R&D centers, and that is why our
educational systems are not on-par with that of the Western world or even the
fat east.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Fahd<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
menog-bounces@lists.menog.org [mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Stephen Wilcox<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:40
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Ahmed Abu-Abed<BR><B>Cc:</B> menog@menog. net; Timothy
Roy<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Hi Ahmed,<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I agree it won't go away and is less than before - but on
your second point, remembering a site URL, I would suggest, is not easier than
searching for the company or service name in a browser search bar or clicking on
the iTunes app.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Russia and Korea aren't really comparable - they are two
highly developed independent markets in terms of technology, resources and
experience in the Internet field, with very advanced software produced
domestically. In Russia, sites such as Yandex (Яндекс.рф) and <A
href="http://mail.ru">mail.ru</A> dominate the user base and a typical user with
their Russian keyboard, Russian operating system, Russian browser using their
domestically produced search engine (Яндекс.рф) which produces a list of locally
hosted sites and services developed specifically for the Russian market (as
opposed to <A href="http://google.com">google.com</A>, <A
href="http://facebook.com">facebook.com</A>, <A
href="http://microsoft.com">microsoft.com</A> which are English made to fit into
Arabic with few developers in region). <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I don't think these will be comparable until such time as
there is an Arabic technological centre - producing software engineers, advanced
software and hardware integration. And the opposite is currently true; 90%+ of
Arabic websites are hosted outside the region, mostly in the US; compared to
nearly all (I can't find a percent) Russian websites are hosted within Russia
fully on Russian infrastructure.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Another sample data point - Arabic is the 5th most spoken
language (280m native speakers), Russian is the 8th (160m native speakers) yet
Russian is the 2nd most common language on the web.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I think is part of a wider interesting topic, perhaps one for
future debates at MENOG meetings. This is that in spite of the population and
wealth of the Arabic region, the region has typically not invested in local
innovation or initiatives or where it has it has tended to throw money at pet
projects but the benefits of these are generally felt most by the foreign
partners, works or few rich financiers who back the projects. More Arabic IDNs,
more local centres of skill, more cooperation between nations who currently
compete to produce 5 average results instead of 1 global leader, more
initiatives for local web hosting and software production that can compete on
skill and price with Hyderabad, Seoul, Silicon Valley etc would go a long
way.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Kind regards<BR>Steve<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On 29 October 2013 05:12, Ahmed Abu-Abed <<A
href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com" target=_blank>ahmed@tamkien.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Typing in
URLs is less than before, but it won’t go away. And its much easier to remember
a sites name in one’s native language and script. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">That’s why
we are looking for ways to increase Arabic IDN adoption, while Russian and
Korean IDN have been very successful commercially and in consumer uptake (see
the reports Baher Esmat sent yesterday).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-Ahmed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=steve.wilcox@ixreach.com href="mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com"
target=_blank>Stephen Wilcox</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Monday, October 28,
2013 7:25 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com" target=_blank>Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=Timothy@tra.gov.om href="mailto:Timothy@tra.gov.om" target=_blank>Timothy
Roy</A> ; <A title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net"
target=_blank>mailto:menog@menog.net</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Re: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I mean
there is less interest and value since navigation on the Internet has moved away
from typing URLs into browsers.. app based devices and better search engines
along with integration with browsers means most users are not remembering and
typing URLs and instead using more seamless methods to navigate.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Similarly
with the "www" point which is also true with "http://" - many years ago this was
necessary as a lot of services other than www co-existing on the Internet and
there was confusion with users, every day terminology and the expectation of the
technology. Nowadays, if you type "apple" into your browser you will find your
way immediately to Apple without needing the http, www or the .com ... in fact,
if you use an iPad or iTunes you dont even need to know the URLs, its all built
into the apps which are preloaded into the device.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">eg enter
"</SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA dir=rtl>خليج</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN>" into your
browser.. my first hit is "</SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA dir=rtl>خليج -
ويكيبيديا،</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=AR-SA dir=rtl>الموسوعة الحرة</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN>" and my second
is "</SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA dir=rtl>خليج سيهات</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN>" etc ... but
the websites are "<A href="http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/"
target=_blank>http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/</A></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
dir=rtl>خليج</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">" and
"<A href="http://www.khaleejsaihat.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.khaleejsaihat.com/</A></SPAN><SPAN
lang=AR-SA></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">" - both
non-IDN, but if I only spoke arabic and didn't even understand the latin
alphabet it wouldn't matter since the URL isn't important for
me.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I'm not
saying there shouldn't be IDNs or that having your company's name in arabic
isn't important, just that users are not as focussed on the domain name any more
therefore adoption is slower since priority is going elsewhere ie in content and
apps.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Steve<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">On 28
October 2013 16:12, Ahmed Abu-Abed <<A href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com"
target=_blank>ahmed@tamkien.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Please
elaborate on what is 10 years too late, do you mean IDN is late
?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-Ahmed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=steve.wilcox@ixreach.com href="mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com"
target=_blank>Stephen Wilcox</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Monday, October 28,
2013 2:53 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com" target=_blank>Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=Timothy@tra.gov.om href="mailto:Timothy@tra.gov.om" target=_blank>Timothy
Roy</A> ; <A title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net"
target=_blank>mailto:menog@menog.net</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Re: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Not wishing
to sound skeptical, but isnt this all coming about 10 years too late and thats
the reason for the lack of adoption?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The device
of choice is a smartphone or tablet, these are app and icon
based.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Being old
fashioned I still use a computer but mostly find things, even common websites by
inputting the common name into a search bar (or browser bar - Chrome doesnt
distinguish) and the result is a clickable list of search results, which will be
in the local script and language. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">eg the
average user never inputs urls anyway, but when they do they likely input arabic
text directly to the browser for a search term and get a list of website titles
and then click them. they dont pay attention to the underlying URL that much any
more<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Compare to
this address books on mobile phones. In the 90s I could tell you anyone's phone
number from memory, now I know maybe my own and my Mums and thats about
it..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Steve<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">On 28
October 2013 08:38, Ahmed Abu-Abed <<A href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com"
target=_blank>ahmed@tamkien.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The Arabic
version of "net" would come at the beginning of the domain name, as we don't
have an equivalent of "www". Thus in Oman's case it would still end in .oman in
Arabic.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">IMO, as techies we may not be the
best ones to judge which is better, ie. to keep an equivalent of www or drop it.
The domain name's marketing staff should decide on this, with the aim of gaining
more interest to their website if promoting an Arabic IDN. Registrar's may
provide both options to their customers to encourage Arabic IDN
adoption.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-Ahmed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><BR>On 2013-10-28, at 8:05 AM,
Timothy Roy <<A href="mailto:Timothy@tra.gov.om"
target=_blank>Timothy@tra.gov.om</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
believe that the Arabic version of net would cause more confusion. I think
that keeping simpler is better. I know that here in Oman we have been pushing
and promoting the .oman(Arabic) IDN quite extensively. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
also believe that for an organization to actually have the Arabic content and
URL they need to access their market. If they want to reach or promote their
business to the MENOG regions (or regions of their specific country) that have
a lesser comprehension of English language then they should go for it.
As a registry we are trying to promote it but it is mainly up to the
Registrars to promote it to obtain more business in this field of domain
names.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">My
quick observations.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Best
Regards</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Timothy
Roy</SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Regulatory
and Compliance Unit</SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Domain
Name Operations</SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Telecommunications
Regulatory Authority.</SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d">Tel: <A
href="tel:%2B968%2024574858" target=_blank>+968
24574858</A></SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d">Mobile: <A
href="tel:%2B968%2093551117" target=_blank>+968
93551117</A></SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d">Email: <A
href="mailto:timothy@tra.gov.om" target=_blank><SPAN
style="COLOR: #17365d">timothy@tra.gov.om</SPAN></A></SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Garamond','serif'; COLOR: #0f243e">Office
hours: Sunday – Thursday, 7:30am – 3:00pm (Muscat GMT
+4)</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ahmed
Abu-Abed<BR><B>Sent:</B> 28 October 2013 08:55<BR><B>To:</B> Fahd
Batayneh<BR><B>Cc:</B> menog@menog. net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's popularity</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I agree, the term “www” may seem
redundant at first look, but it certainly indicates what is coming next is a
web site. In other words, it is like a “Mr.” or “Dr.” title that give you a
rough idea of the person you are referring to. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Should we have an Arabic “www”
equivalent to grab peoples attention to Arabic IDN ? Something like
</SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA dir=rtl>نت</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN>
(translated into “net”) so instead of </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
dir=rtl>عمان.الاردن</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> the
website owner should promote </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
dir=rtl>نت.عمان..الاردن</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN>
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">This will likely get more
attention to Arabic IDNs.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">My 0.02 Dinar thoughts
...</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-Ahmed</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=fahd.batayneh@icann.org href="mailto:fahd.batayneh@icann.org"
target=_blank>Fahd Batayneh</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Monday, October
28, 2013 12:23 AM</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien..com" target=_blank>Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net"
target=_blank>mailto:menog@menog.net</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> RE: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's popularity</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
have actually seen Arabic URLs posted in public areas in the UAE, yet it is
not gaining the marketing advantages it seeks.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">There
have been discussions within New gTLD applicants on whether to encourage New
gTLD registrants (once these new gTLDs are delegated and are generally
available) to advertise their online presence using “www” in front of the URL
or not; i.e. <A href="http://www.menog.anything"
target=_blank>www.menog.anything</A> vs. </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">menog.anything<SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">. For those who might not know, the inventor of the
term “www” in front of URLs has admitted that such an addition was a mistake
in the first place. Yet, after thorough discussions, those involved have
concluded that in order for people to understand what
</SPAN>menog.anything<SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"> is, it is best that “www”
is added in front of the URL for advertising purposes. I believe this to be
the case for IDNs we well; i.e. some just don’t understand what
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-JO
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"
dir=rtl>مثال.اختبار</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN> is.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">My
2 cents.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Fahd</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ahmed
Abu-Abed<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:51 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tom
Paseka<BR><B>Cc:</B> menog@menog. net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's popularity</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
Tom,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Country code TLDs have been
available since 2010 for 4 Arab countries at least. Unfortunately its not on
most peoples priority list for implementing, and I have not noticed any
advertising for an Arabic URL over the past couple of years (I live in the
MENOG region).</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">As for CloudFlares IDNs, it would
be good to filter out which are using the Arabic alphabet and know how many
Arabic IDNs are actually out there. That would require a good understanding of
Punycode used to translate an IDN into Latin
characters.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Regards,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-Ahmed</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=tom+menog@cloudflare.com href="mailto:tom+menog@cloudflare.com"
target=_blank>Tom Paseka</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Sunday, October
27, 2013 7:20 PM</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com" target=_blank>Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net"
target=_blank>mailto:menog@menog.net</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Re: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's popularity</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi Ahmed, </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I've had a look through
CloudFlare's customers and we see thousands of IDN's, but this is nothing
compared to what exists in pre-existing romanized domains.
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">For a pre-existing company to move
to a IDN, or any new domain in general, they have to revamp their presence,
re-market to everyone to make sure they visit the correct address. I assume
this isn't an easy task. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I suspect you'll see new starters
coming out from the get-go with an IDN, but it'll take a while for the
existing content to start adoption.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Cheers,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Tom</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:54 AM,
Ahmed Abu-Abed <<A href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com"
target=_blank>ahmed@tamkien.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">ICANN is in the news with the new
</SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA dir=rtl>شبكة</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> TLD,
see <A title=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24637673
href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24637673"
target=_blank>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24637673</A></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I am yet to see Arabic TLDs widely
implemented, although most browsers are ready, even on iOS and Android which I
tested with an Arabic URL. Any idea on why is the delay in implementing Arabic
URL by content providers (newspapers, etc.) ? People in the region prefer
Arabic websites, so I am wondering what’s stopping content providers from
having Arabic URLs.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Also, anyone know if major
portals, like Google or Yahoo, have implemented IDNs in any language for their
URL ? Something like </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA dir=rtl>ياهو.شبكة</SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN> (which translates to <A href="http://Yahoo.net"
target=_blank>Yahoo.net</A> , as I cannot find an equivalent to .com as an
Arabic TLD).</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Best
Regards,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Ahmed
Abu-Abed</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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