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<DIV>Hi Fahd,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>IMHO resolving variants and keyboard compatibility needs more on the
practice of building consensus than anything else. And building consensus is not
easy in this part of the world as the language is actively used by many
cultures. I think Arabic is at a unique & difficult position when it comes
to IDNs as other non-Latin languages are dominated by single country which can
set the rules easily.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>That said, we still need to market the Arab IDN more actively so people are
aware of the option.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-Ahmed</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fahd.batayneh@icann.org
href="mailto:fahd.batayneh@icann.org">Fahd Batayneh</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:32 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com">Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=menog@menog.net
href="mailto:menog@menog.net">mailto:menog@menog.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Ahmed,
I agree with you that IDN’s is no rocket science, but I strongly disagree that
it has little to do with R&D and innovation. In the case of the Arab script,
if it had little to do with R&D and innovation, we would have resolved local
issues such as variants and keyboard compatibility A LONG time ago. R&D and
innovation is one approach to the solution, and collaboration amongst different
linguistic communities is another.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Fahd<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Ahmed Abu-Abed
[mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:43
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Fahd Batayneh; Stephen Wilcox<BR><B>Cc:</B> menog@menog.
net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Folks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Implementing IDNs is
not rocket science, and has little to do with R&D and innovation. Its for
the benefit of the average Arab user on the street who has an Arabic interface
everywhere on his PC and mobile and an Arabic IDN would helpful too while
browsing the web. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">-Ahmed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=fahd.batayneh@icann.org href="mailto:fahd.batayneh@icann.org">Fahd
Batayneh</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:17 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=steve.wilcox@ixreach.com href="mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com">Stephen
Wilcox</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net">mailto:menog@menog.net</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> Re:
[menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Steve,
you have mentioned very important and valid points about the region. While
Amman, Jordan is considered the Silicon Valley of the Middle East, I always say
that it is an over-stated statement simply because while a Silicon Valley is a
place for innovation and creativity, Amman is an IT hub where we have excellent
IT professionals who learn new technologies, but do not innovate any. The weak
link in this part of the world is lack of R&D centers, and that is why our
educational systems are not on-par with that of the Western world or even the
fat east.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Fahd<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org">menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A>
[<A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org">mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Stephen Wilcox<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 29, 2013
4:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Ahmed Abu-Abed<BR><B>Cc:</B> menog@menog. net; Timothy
Roy<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Hi Ahmed,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I agree it won't go away and is
less than before - but on your second point, remembering a site URL, I would
suggest, is not easier than searching for the company or service name in a
browser search bar or clicking on the iTunes app.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Russia and Korea aren't really
comparable - they are two highly developed independent markets in terms of
technology, resources and experience in the Internet field, with very advanced
software produced domestically. In Russia, sites such as Yandex (Яндекс.рф) and
<A href="http://mail.ru">mail.ru</A> dominate the user base and a typical user
with their Russian keyboard, Russian operating system, Russian browser using
their domestically produced search engine (Яндекс.рф) which produces a list of
locally hosted sites and services developed specifically for the Russian market
(as opposed to <A href="http://google.com">google.com</A>, <A
href="http://facebook.com">facebook.com</A>, <A
href="http://microsoft.com">microsoft.com</A> which are English made to fit into
Arabic with few developers in region). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I don't think these will be
comparable until such time as there is an Arabic technological centre -
producing software engineers, advanced software and hardware integration. And
the opposite is currently true; 90%+ of Arabic websites are hosted outside the
region, mostly in the US; compared to nearly all (I can't find a percent)
Russian websites are hosted within Russia fully on Russian
infrastructure.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Another sample data point - Arabic
is the 5th most spoken language (280m native speakers), Russian is the 8th (160m
native speakers) yet Russian is the 2nd most common language on the
web.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I think is part of a wider
interesting topic, perhaps one for future debates at MENOG meetings. This is
that in spite of the population and wealth of the Arabic region, the region has
typically not invested in local innovation or initiatives or where it has it has
tended to throw money at pet projects but the benefits of these are generally
felt most by the foreign partners, works or few rich financiers who back the
projects. More Arabic IDNs, more local centres of skill, more cooperation
between nations who currently compete to produce 5 average results instead of 1
global leader, more initiatives for local web hosting and software production
that can compete on skill and price with Hyderabad, Seoul, Silicon Valley etc
would go a long way.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Kind
regards<BR>Steve<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">On 29 October 2013 05:12, Ahmed
Abu-Abed <<A href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com"
target=_blank>ahmed@tamkien.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Typing in URLs is less
than before, but it won’t go away. And its much easier to remember a sites name
in one’s native language and script. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">That’s why we are
looking for ways to increase Arabic IDN adoption, while Russian and Korean IDN
have been very successful commercially and in consumer uptake (see the reports
Baher Esmat sent yesterday).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">-Ahmed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=steve.wilcox@ixreach.com href="mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com"
target=_blank>Stephen Wilcox</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
Monday, October 28, 2013 7:25 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com" target=_blank>Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=Timothy@tra.gov.om href="mailto:Timothy@tra.gov.om" target=_blank>Timothy
Roy</A> ; <A title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net"
target=_blank>mailto:menog@menog.net</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> Re:
[menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I mean there is less
interest and value since navigation on the Internet has moved away from typing
URLs into browsers.. app based devices and better search engines along with
integration with browsers means most users are not remembering and typing URLs
and instead using more seamless methods to navigate. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Similarly with the
"www" point which is also true with "http://" - many years ago this was
necessary as a lot of services other than www co-existing on the Internet and
there was confusion with users, every day terminology and the expectation of the
technology. Nowadays, if you type "apple" into your browser you will find your
way immediately to Apple without needing the http, www or the .com ... in fact,
if you use an iPad or iTunes you dont even need to know the URLs, its all built
into the apps which are preloaded into the device.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">eg enter "</SPAN><SPAN
lang=AR-SA style="COLOR: black" dir=rtl>خليج</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN>" into your browser.. my first hit is
"</SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="COLOR: black" dir=rtl>خليج -
ويكيبيديا،</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
style="COLOR: black" dir=rtl>الموسوعة الحرة</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN>" and my second is "</SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
style="COLOR: black" dir=rtl>خليج سيهات</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN>" etc ... but the websites are "<A
href="http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/"
target=_blank>http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/</A></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
style="COLOR: black" dir=rtl>خليج</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="COLOR: black"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">" and "<A
href="http://www.khaleejsaihat.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.khaleejsaihat.com/</A></SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">" - both non-IDN, but
if I only spoke arabic and didn't even understand the latin alphabet it wouldn't
matter since the URL isn't important for me.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I'm not saying there
shouldn't be IDNs or that having your company's name in arabic isn't important,
just that users are not as focussed on the domain name any more therefore
adoption is slower since priority is going elsewhere ie in content and
apps.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Steve<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">On 28 October 2013
16:12, Ahmed Abu-Abed <<A href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com"
target=_blank>ahmed@tamkien.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Please elaborate on
what is 10 years too late, do you mean IDN is late ?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">-Ahmed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=steve.wilcox@ixreach.com href="mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com"
target=_blank>Stephen Wilcox</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
Monday, October 28, 2013 2:53 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com" target=_blank>Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=Timothy@tra.gov.om href="mailto:Timothy@tra.gov.om" target=_blank>Timothy
Roy</A> ; <A title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net"
target=_blank>mailto:menog@menog.net</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> Re:
[menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's
popularity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Not wishing to sound
skeptical, but isnt this all coming about 10 years too late and thats the reason
for the lack of adoption?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">The device of choice
is a smartphone or tablet, these are app and icon
based.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Being old fashioned I
still use a computer but mostly find things, even common websites by inputting
the common name into a search bar (or browser bar - Chrome doesnt distinguish)
and the result is a clickable list of search results, which will be in the local
script and language. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">eg the average user
never inputs urls anyway, but when they do they likely input arabic text
directly to the browser for a search term and get a list of website titles and
then click them. they dont pay attention to the underlying URL that much any
more<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Compare to this
address books on mobile phones. In the 90s I could tell you anyone's phone
number from memory, now I know maybe my own and my Mums and thats about
it..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Steve<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">On 28 October 2013
08:38, Ahmed Abu-Abed <<A href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com"
target=_blank>ahmed@tamkien.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">The Arabic version of
"net" would come at the beginning of the domain name, as we don't have an
equivalent of "www". Thus in Oman's case it would still end in .oman in
Arabic.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">IMO, as techies we may
not be the best ones to judge which is better, ie. to keep an equivalent of www
or drop it. The domain name's marketing staff should decide on this, with the
aim of gaining more interest to their website if promoting an Arabic IDN.
Registrar's may provide both options to their customers to encourage Arabic IDN
adoption.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">-Ahmed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><BR>On 2013-10-28, at
8:05 AM, Timothy Roy <<A href="mailto:Timothy@tra.gov.om"
target=_blank>Timothy@tra.gov.om</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
believe that the Arabic version of net would cause more confusion. I think
that keeping simpler is better. I know that here in Oman we have been pushing
and promoting the .oman(Arabic) IDN quite extensively. </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
also believe that for an organization to actually have the Arabic content and
URL they need to access their market. If they want to reach or promote their
business to the MENOG regions (or regions of their specific country) that have
a lesser comprehension of English language then they should go for it.
As a registry we are trying to promote it but it is mainly up to the
Registrars to promote it to obtain more business in this field of domain
names.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">My
quick observations.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Best
Regards</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Timothy
Roy</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Regulatory
and Compliance Unit</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Domain
Name Operations</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #442e54">Telecommunications
Regulatory Authority.</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d">Tel: <A
href="tel:%2B968%2024574858" target=_blank>+968 24574858</A></SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d">Mobile: <A
href="tel:%2B968%2093551117" target=_blank>+968 93551117</A></SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua','serif'; COLOR: #17365d">Email: <A
href="mailto:timothy@tra.gov.om" target=_blank><SPAN
style="COLOR: #17365d">timothy@tra.gov.om</SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Garamond','serif'; COLOR: #0f243e">Office
hours: Sunday – Thursday, 7:30am – 3:00pm (Muscat GMT +4)</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ahmed
Abu-Abed<BR><B>Sent:</B> 28 October 2013 08:55<BR><B>To:</B> Fahd
Batayneh<BR><B>Cc:</B> menog@menog. net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's popularity</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I agree, the term
“www” may seem redundant at first look, but it certainly indicates what is
coming next is a web site. In other words, it is like a “Mr.” or “Dr.” title
that give you a rough idea of the person you are referring to. </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Should we have an
Arabic “www” equivalent to grab peoples attention to Arabic IDN ? Something
like </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="COLOR: black" dir=rtl>نت</SPAN><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> (translated into “net”) so instead
of </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="COLOR: black"
dir=rtl>عمان.الاردن</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> the website owner should
promote </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="COLOR: black"
dir=rtl>نت.عمان..الاردن</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
lang=AR-SA style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">This will likely get
more attention to Arabic IDNs.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">My 0.02 Dinar
thoughts ...</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">-Ahmed</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=fahd.batayneh@icann.org href="mailto:fahd.batayneh@icann.org"
target=_blank>Fahd Batayneh</A> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
Monday, October 28, 2013 12:23 AM</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien..com" target=_blank>Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net"
target=_blank>mailto:menog@menog.net</A> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> RE:
[menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's popularity</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
have actually seen Arabic URLs posted in public areas in the UAE, yet it is
not gaining the marketing advantages it seeks.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">There
have been discussions within New gTLD applicants on whether to encourage New
gTLD registrants (once these new gTLDs are delegated and are generally
available) to advertise their online presence using “www” in front of the URL
or not; i.e. <A href="http://www.menog.anything"
target=_blank>www.menog.anything</A> vs. </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">menog.anything</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">.
For those who might not know, the inventor of the term “www” in front of URLs
has admitted that such an addition was a mistake in the first place. Yet,
after thorough discussions, those involved have concluded that in order for
people to understand what </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">menog.anything</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">
is, it is best that “www” is added in front of the URL for advertising
purposes. I believe this to be the case for IDNs we well; i.e. some just don’t
understand what </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-JO
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"
dir=rtl>مثال.اختبار</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> is.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">My
2 cents.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Fahd</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:menog-bounces@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>menog-bounces@lists.menog.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ahmed
Abu-Abed<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:51 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tom
Paseka<BR><B>Cc:</B> menog@menog. net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [menog] New
Arabic TLD and idea's popularity</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Hi Tom,</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Country code TLDs
have been available since 2010 for 4 Arab countries at least. Unfortunately
its not on most peoples priority list for implementing, and I have not noticed
any advertising for an Arabic URL over the past couple of years (I live in the
MENOG region).</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">As for CloudFlares
IDNs, it would be good to filter out which are using the Arabic alphabet and
know how many Arabic IDNs are actually out there. That would require a good
understanding of Punycode used to translate an IDN into Latin
characters.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Regards,</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">-Ahmed</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=tom+menog@cloudflare.com href="mailto:tom+menog@cloudflare.com"
target=_blank>Tom Paseka</A> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:20 PM</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=ahmed@tamkien.com href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com" target=_blank>Ahmed
Abu-Abed</A> </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=menog@menog.net href="mailto:menog@menog.net"
target=_blank>mailto:menog@menog.net</A> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> Re:
[menog] New Arabic TLD and idea's popularity</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Hi Ahmed,
</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I've had a look
through CloudFlare's customers and we see thousands of IDN's, but this is
nothing compared to what exists in pre-existing romanized domains.
</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">For a pre-existing
company to move to a IDN, or any new domain in general, they have to revamp
their presence, re-market to everyone to make sure they visit the correct
address. I assume this isn't an easy task. </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I suspect you'll see
new starters coming out from the get-go with an IDN, but it'll take a while
for the existing content to start adoption.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Cheers,</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Tom</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">On Sun, Oct 27, 2013
at 1:54 AM, Ahmed Abu-Abed <<A href="mailto:ahmed@tamkien.com"
target=_blank>ahmed@tamkien.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">ICANN is in the news
with the new </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="COLOR: black"
dir=rtl>شبكة</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> TLD, see <A
title=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24637673
href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24637673"
target=_blank>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24637673</A></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I am yet to see
Arabic TLDs widely implemented, although most browsers are ready, even on iOS
and Android which I tested with an Arabic URL. Any idea on why is the delay in
implementing Arabic URL by content providers (newspapers, etc.) ? People in
the region prefer Arabic websites, so I am wondering what’s stopping content
providers from having Arabic URLs.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Also, anyone know if
major portals, like Google or Yahoo, have implemented IDNs in any language for
their URL ? Something like </SPAN><SPAN lang=AR-SA style="COLOR: black"
dir=rtl>ياهو.شبكة</SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> (which translates to <A
href="http://Yahoo.net" target=_blank>Yahoo.net</A> , as I cannot find an
equivalent to .com as an Arabic TLD).</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Best
Regards,</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Ahmed
Abu-Abed</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Menog
mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Menog@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>Menog@lists.menog.org</A><BR><A
href="http://lists.menog.org/mailman/listinfo/menog"
target=_blank>http://lists.menog.org/mailman/listinfo/menog</A></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Menog
mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:Menog@lists.menog.org"
target=_blank>Menog@lists.menog.org</A><BR><A
href="http://lists.menog.org/mailman/listinfo/menog"
target=_blank>http://lists.menog.org/mailman/listinfo/menog</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><BR><BR
clear=all><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">-- <BR>Director /
Founder<BR>IX Reach Ltd<BR>E: <A href="mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com"
target=_blank>steve.wilcox@ixreach.com</A><BR>M: <A
href="tel:%2B44%207966%20048633" target=_blank>+44 7966 048633</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Tempus Court,
Bellfield Road, High Wycombe, HP13 5HA,
UK.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><BR><BR
clear=all><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">-- <BR>Director /
Founder<BR>IX Reach Ltd<BR>E: <A href="mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com"
target=_blank>steve.wilcox@ixreach.com</A><BR>M: <A
href="tel:%2B44%207966%20048633" target=_blank>+44 7966 048633</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Tempus Court,
Bellfield Road, High Wycombe, HP13 5HA,
UK.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR><BR
clear=all><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">-- <BR>Director / Founder<BR>IX
Reach Ltd<BR>E: <A href="mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com"
target=_blank>steve.wilcox@ixreach.com</A><BR>M: +44 7966
048633<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Tempus Court, Bellfield Road, High
Wycombe, HP13 5HA, UK.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
<HR align=center SIZE=2 width="100%">
</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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