FW: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

Tue Apr 21 11:30:11 GMT 2009

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-----Original Message-----
From: menog-bounces at menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces at menog.net] On Behalf Of ARIF OKTAY
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:22 AM
To: 'kiyam at gorannet.net'; 'fahad at 2connectbahrain.com'
Cc: 'menog at menog.net'; 'Ahmeda at gatewaygulf.net'
Subject: Re: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

Hi Kiyam,

Where do you exactly want this services in Iraq ?

Normally satellite connections shouldn't be the cheapest solution, but it also depends in your location and available telecom services.

Still "LCR"  in ip network routing may not be as efficient as it is application in voice
Routing. Because;

Ip Transit prices, to my experience, rarely changes according to routes. There are
A couple of companies offering partiall ip transit (like eu transit or us transit) but these are very limited

Hope these helps.

Regards,
Arif

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----- Original Message -----
From: menog-bounces at menog.net <menog-bounces at menog.net>
To: 'Fahad Alshirawi' <fahad at 2connectbahrain.com>
Cc: menog at menog.net <menog at menog.net>; 'Ahmed' 'Alrasheed' <Ahmeda at gatewaygulf.net>
Sent: Tue Apr 21 01:56:11 2009
Subject: RE: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

Dear Mr. Fahad,
currently we pay a very low price on the VSAT as the volume is enough to occupy a whole TP, but the problem is the US
army as they as using the same SAT for tracking and internal comms. I am expecting better prices on other SATs.

Thank you

Best regards,

Kiyam Kadir
Goran Net ISP
Business Consultant
EMail: kiyam at gorannet.net
Tel: 00964 (0) 770 2 666 666

-----Original Message-----
From: Fahad Alshirawi [mailto:fahad at 2connectbahrain.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 01:38
To: Kiyam Kadir
Cc: Ahmed' 'Alrasheed; menog at menog.net
Subject: Re: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

I'll send you contacts. However, satellite is not cheap. I don't think you'll get what you want in terms of cost savings.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kiyam Kadir" <kiyam at gorannet.net>
To: fahad at 2connectbahrain.com, "Kiyam Kadir" <kiyam at gorannet.net>, "Ahmed' 'Alrasheed" <Ahmeda at gatewaygulf.net>, menog at menog.net
Sent: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009 01:32:15 GMT +03:00 Iraq
Subject: RE: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

Dear Mr. Fahad,

to make things more clear, I am from a telco background and I know the
principals of toll bypass as well as LCR. when I come to the MENOG (which
was my first visit and most important visit) I realized that the same
principal can be applied on IP traffic.

so what I am going to do and am looking for is to have 4-6 dishes in Iraq,
that connect us to each continent over the shortest (cheapest) path. I want
to buy as little transit services as possible. that why I want to replace
our current 120mbps main link with multiple VSAT links to achieve redundancy
and LCR.

this is the real reason behind all this conversation and I am very happy
with the responses I receive, as I can see a community helping each other.

this MENOG thing is really a nice idea.

Thank you

Best regards,

Kiyam Kadir

Goran Net ISP

Business Consultant

EMail: kiyam at gorannet.net

Tel: 00964 (0) 770 2 666 666

From: menog-bounces at menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces at menog.net] On Behalf Of
fahad at 2connectbahrain.com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 19:46
To: Kiyam Kadir; 'Alrasheed, Ahmed'; menog at menog.net
Subject: Re: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

In the country you operate in, do you have a license for satellite landing
station? Are you looking for backbone over satellite or?

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From: "Kiyam Kadir"
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:25:56 +0300
To: <fahad at 2connectbahrain.com>; <menog-bounces at menog.net>; 'Alrasheed,
Ahmed'<Ahmeda at gatewaygulf.net>; <menog at menog.net>
Subject: RE: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

Dear Mr. Fahad,

please explain more about what you mean with "legal landing rights"

Thank you

Best regards,

Kiyam Kadir

Goran Net ISP

Business Consultant

EMail: kiyam at gorannet.net

Tel: 00964 (0) 770 2 666 666

From: fahad at 2connectbahrain.com [mailto:fahad at 2connectbahrain.com]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 18:21
To: Kiyam Kadir; menog-bounces at menog.net; 'Alrasheed, Ahmed';
menog at menog.net
Subject: Re: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

If you have legal landing rights and you need significant bandwidth, you
should be transponder capacity from satellite owners rather than service
provider.

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From: "Kiyam Kadir"
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:31:48 +0300
To: 'Alrasheed, Ahmed'<Ahmeda at gatewaygulf.net>; 'Kiyam
Kadir'<kiyam at gorannet.net>; <menog at menog.net>
Subject: RE: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

Dear Mr. Al-Rasheed,

the satellite I need should be able to handle capacities of up to 200Mbps at
most. do you think this company offers such a service?

Thank you

Best regards,

Kiyam Kadir

Goran Net ISP

Business Consultant

EMail: kiyam at gorannet.net

Tel: 00964 (0) 770 2 666 666

From: menog-bounces at menog.net [mailto:menog-bounces at menog.net] On Behalf Of
Alrasheed, Ahmed
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 14:12
To: Kiyam Kadir; menog at menog.net
Subject: RE: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

Dear Kiyam,

    Electronia is the provider of choice for highly advanced wired/wireless
broadband communications systems.

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http://www.electronia.com/procomm.php
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http://www.electronia.com/products/vsat.pdf

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Ahmed

-----Original Message-----
From: menog-bounces at menog.net on behalf of Kiyam Kadir
Sent: Mon 20-Apr-09 1:11 PM
To: menog at menog.net
Subject: [menog] Satellite Transport Services

Dear Colleagues,

I hope you all are doing well. Please help me to find out of Satellite
Operators that have coverage over middle-east and Europe, as well as asia.

I want to setup a semi-full mesh with a few continents to have multiple
POPs.

thank you in advance

Thank you

Best regards,

Kiyam Kadir

Goran Net ISP

Business Consultant

EMail:  <mailto:kiyam at gorannet.net> kiyam at gorannet.net

Tel: 00964 (0) 770 2 666 666

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