[menog] Re: EMIX experiences?

Aftab Siddiqui aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com
Tue Mar 22 05:20:18 GMT 2011


They are no where close to IX. They are just transit providers. Because if
Qtel is there at EMIX I can't peer with them.

btw I heard they are providing native v6 connectivity as well. is that true?

Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Saad Alsalamah <s.salamah at go.com.sa> wrote:

> Dear Rechard,
>
> Currently we have multiple links going through EMIX. EMIX for us is an
> upstream provider, meaning we are peering with them directly like any
> international upstream providers, I am not sure if they provide transmission
> services. We have both good and bad experience with EMIX but I can tell they
> are fast in their response and very organized people.
>
> Saad
>
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:46:36 -0700
> > From: <mmajeed at cmc.iq>
> > Subject: [menog] IT Conferences and workshops
> > To: <sandra at ripe.net>
> > Cc: joe.abley at icann.org, chris at ripe.net, menog at menog.net, it at cmc.iq,
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> > Dear Sir
> > I hope you all in a good health,  can you please keep me updated for all
> > conferences and workshops that will be held about information technology
> ,
> > to
> > be able to participate with it and in order to view the latest updates in
> > the field of information technology
> > also hope to add my emails to your list  mmajeed at cmc.iq , it at cmc.iq
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> > Thank you in advance
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> > From: Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net>
> > Subject: Re: [menog] IT Conferences and workshops
> > To: <mmajeed at cmc.iq>
> > Cc: Joe Abley <joe.abley at icann.org>, Chris Buckridge <chris at ripe.net>,
> >        menog at menog.net, it at cmc.iq, syamout at pcm.gov.lb
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> > On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:46 PM, <mmajeed at cmc.iq> wrote:
> >> I hope you all in a good health,  can you please keep me updated for all
> >> conferences and workshops that will be held about information technology
> ,
> >> to be able to participate with it and in order to view the latest
> updates in
> >> the field of information technology
> >
> > Mohammed:
> >
> > This may help:
> >
> > http://internetmeetings.org
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> >                                -Bill
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:19:11 +0300
> > From: "Ayad Sabbagh" <ayad at fonoinfo.com>
> > Subject: RE: [menog] IT Conferences and workshops
> > To: "'Bill Woodcock'" <woody at pch.net>, <mmajeed at cmc.iq>
> > Cc: 'Chris Buckridge' <chris at ripe.net>, menog at menog.net,
> >        syamout at pcm.gov.lb,     'Joe Abley' <joe.abley at icann.org>,
> it at cmc.iq
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> > Dear Mohammed/all,
> >
> > The TM Forum Management World Middle East is in 2 weeks on March 22 in
> > Dubai. The event brings together the region's leading service providers
> to
> > examine how innovation holds the keys to future growth, and how
> operational
> > agility is essential in delivering that growth. More details are
> available
> > at http://www.tmforum.org/ManagementWorldMiddle/8619/home.html
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> > Best regards,
> > Ayad Sabbagh
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> Of
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> > Sent: 06 March, 2011 7:50 PM
> > To: mmajeed at cmc.iq
> > Cc: Joe Abley; Chris Buckridge; menog at menog.net; it at cmc.iq;
> > syamout at pcm.gov.lb
> > Subject: Re: [menog] IT Conferences and workshops
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> > On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:46 PM, <mmajeed at cmc.iq> wrote:
> >> I hope you all in a good health,  can you please keep me updated for all
> >> conferences and workshops that will be held about information technology
> ,
> >> to be able to participate with it and in order to view the latest
> updates
> > in
> >> the field of information technology
> >
> > Mohammed:
> >
> > This may help:
> >
> > http://internetmeetings.org
> >
> >                                -Bill
> >
> >
> >
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> > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:32:59 -0400
> > From: Richard Barnes <richard.barnes at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [menog] EMIX experiences?
> > To: menog at menog.net
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> > Hey all,
> >
> > I'm wondering impressions people have of EMXI.  I can't tell from the
> > their website whether they're an exchange or a transit provider.
> > Their website says that they facilitate peering, but it's not clear to
> > me how that works -- can I talk BGP directly with my peer, or does it
> > all go through EMIX?  Is there additional cost per peer?
> >
> > If anyone has any experience peering through EMIX (or if there are any
> > EMIX reps on here), I would appreciate more information.  Feel free to
> > contact me off-list as well.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --Richard
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:57:32 -0700
> > From: Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net>
> > Subject: Re: [menog] EMIX experiences?
> > To: menog at menog.net
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> > On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Richard Barnes wrote:
> >> I'm wondering impressions people have of EMXI.  I can't tell from the
> >> their website whether they're an exchange or a transit provider.
> >> Their website says that they facilitate peering, but it's not clear to
> >> me how that works -- can I talk BGP directly with my peer, or does it
> >> all go through EMIX?
> >
> > My information may not be 100% up-to-date, but historically, EMIX has
> been Etisalat's international transit gateway product, not an Internet
> exchange in the generally-accepted sense of the phrase.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_exchange_point
> >
> >                                -Bill
> >
> >
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> > Message: 10
> > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:41:52 -0400
> > From: Joe Abley <jabley at hopcount.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [menog] EMIX experiences?
> > To: Richard Barnes <richard.barnes at gmail.com>
> > Cc: menog at menog.net
> > Message-ID: <5F3CD2DE-B7B9-403A-B36E-79E5A0C4991F at hopcount.ca>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> >
> > On 2011-03-21, at 16:32, Richard Barnes wrote:
> >
> >> I'm wondering impressions people have of EMXI.  I can't tell from the
> >> their website whether they're an exchange or a transit provider.
> >> Their website says that they facilitate peering, but it's not clear to
> >> me how that works -- can I talk BGP directly with my peer, or does it
> >> all go through EMIX?  Is there additional cost per peer?
> >
> > My information is a number of years old.
> >
> > My understanding is/was that EMIX is the wholesale arm of Etisalat. It's
> not an exchange point in any conventional, layer-2 sense; rather it's one of
> the few (perhaps the only) transit provider in UAE who is licenced to
> provide international Internet service. This has the side-effect of keeping
> UAE-sourced traffic local since everybody there winds up being a customer,
> one way or another.
> >
> > The EMIX people I worked with back in the day were knowledgable and
> efficient.
> >
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
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