[menog] Microsoft offered $7.5M for Nortel's IPv4

Owen DeLong owend at he.net
Wed Mar 30 05:25:30 GMT 2011


On Mar 29, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Joe Provo wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 01:40:14PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> On Mar 28, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Brian Candler wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:49:45PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>>>> ARIN "opened its doors for business on 22 December 1997". So perhaps Nortel
>>>>> got their address space prior to that?
>>>> 
>>>> Quite probably, but, I don't think that matters in terms of transfer policy.
>>> 
>>> What I'm saying is: if they never signed an agreement with ARIN, then they
>>> might not be bound by its rules.
>> 
>> Nortel may or may not be bound by ARIN's rules, but, ARIN is the registry and
>> as such, if you want a transfer recognized in the registry, you will need to conduct
>> the transfer according to the policies present in the registry.
>> 
>> Outside of the registry, anyone who wants to can run their own internet using
>> whatever rules they choose to.
>> 
>> Of course, what happens when one attempts to connect one of these other
>> private internets to the IANA/RIR/RFC cooperating internet is rather vague
>> and undefined and I leave speculations about such as an exercise for the
>> reader.
> 
> That's interesting - I don't see a list of legacy asset holders who 
> have not executed the LRSA.  How is this community supposed to know 
> with which kids cuttings class we're not supposed to play?  
> 
> Seriously, that position isn't congruent with the reality that 
> allocations existed before the current scheme of things.
> 
In what way is it incongruent? Yes, I'm advocating that ARIN add
a field (RSA Status:) to whois that states one of {RSA, LRSA, none}.

You are welcome to play or not play with whomever you want. However,
doing so without checking with ARIN before money changes hands is
risky, to say the least.

Owen

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